How Being Mindful Can Change The World

How Being Mindful Can Change The World

“… beyond the immediate message of the person, no matter what that might be, there is the universal.”    –Carl Rogers

An Unexpected Inspiration

One evening my family and I stumbled into Half Price Books in Redmond, WA, after the fabulous happy hour at a local restaurant. We often walk around while slightly “happy” and of course mindful 😉 walk just for fun and to walk off a bit of joy, if you know what I mean.

On the rare occasion I happen to be in a bookstore, I browse through the self-help and psychology books since that’s my interest, looking for tasty bits, inspiration, insights, etc.

On this occasion, I happened upon “A Way of Being” by the founder of humanist psychology “Carl Rogers.” I found something that validated not only my beliefs but also my personal experience in a surprising way. It felt like I had discovered a kindred spirit, actually. All too rare an experience.

Rogers described his experience listening to others in a way that really resonated with me:

There is another peculiar satisfaction in hearing someone: It is like listening to the music of the spheres, because beyond the immediate message of the person, no matter what that might be, there is the universal. Hidden in all of the personal communications which I really hear there seem to be orderly psychological laws, aspects of the same order we find the universe as a whole. So there is both the satisfaction of hearing this person and also the satisfaction of feeling one’s self in touch with what is universally true.

Those who have been with me in groups have heard me say something like “for me, being in a group is like being at a symphony. Each person is their own unique instrument and has a particular sound or “vibe,” and this blends and harmonizes with others, or are perhaps discordant. Each individual is unique and contributes to the overall sense of the group – but the key thing is that it is a very rich and satisfying experience overall. One I enjoy very much.” So I was rather astonished to read a similar sentiment from Rodgers.

Listening to “who” rather than “what”

The key point I’m making is: the story of another person is not as important as you might think. That is my chief objection to “talk” therapy – it is pretty inefficient when you can cut through the crap and get the essence of a person by listening to the “whole.” A good therapist or coach is paying attention not only to the story but the bigger picture. The who. The context of who they are with their problems acting as metaphors for bigger issues they struggle with, rather than problems to solve.

There are, of course, important stories that need to be heard- where telling the story is the work, but that is another matter. In most cases, it’s not the details that matter – it’s the WHO THAT IS SPEAKING. What are they saying about their worldview? what’s important to them? What are they fighting for? What are they crushed by?

They will tell you a thousand ways without words if you look and are present for it. And when you speak to someone coming from that kind of awareness, everything changes.

Seeing Through

The late Ron Kurtz, the creator of the Hakomi method of psychotherapy, used to teach a workshop called Loving Presence. I attended a facilitator training he conducted for this workshop and recall a particularly powerful experience that stays with me to this day.

There was an exercise called “Seeing Through” where you break into small groups. One person is selected to be the actor. The others are observers. Observers are to be present with their experience of the actor and “see” the actor directly and clearly, without judgment. The actor is directed to take a walk a few steps across the room and on the way, pick up any object lying around, take a few more steps, then put it down. Then returning in silence to the small group of observers, sit down in front of them and recite – “Mary had a little lamb, its fleece was white as snow.”

(Keep in mind this exercise occurs after hours of mindful work. We were primed for this kind of exercise. This isn’t something we were asked to do just walking in off the street. It wouldn’t work if so.)

In my group, the actor was a very large, German man who was quiet, and friendly in the group. Did I mention he was large? Pro football defensive-back large. Duck your head at the door large. Yet, he had a gentle voice and delicate demeanor that stood in stark contrast to his stature. A true gentle giant. That had gotten my attention earlier.

The difference in his voice and his physical body was like seeing a woman that could be a supermodel going out of her way to make herself unattractive and small – you KNOW something is going on there. Contrasts stand out if you look for them, and they matter.

The observers took a moment to get mindful and watched him as he gently got up and walked across the room in carefully measured steps. Then very, very carefully, he picked up a glass of water that looked tiny in his hands. He then sat down slowly and in front of us, and in a soft voice, almost like he was talking to his granddaughter, said, “Mary had a little lamb, its fleece was white as snow.” We were all silent for a few moments pondering this experience.

What stood out to me was how exceedingly careful this big guy was in his movements. He was big, but not graceful. It seemed as if he was aware of every part of his body and afraid he would bump something and have it crash. I thought – of course, he has learned to be this careful. He is a big guy, if he bumps something, it matters.

The phrase “bull in a china shop” came to mind, but imagine a self-aware bull moving through a china shop in a way so as not to disturb anything. That was this guy. And there must be a reason why he was so self-aware of this.

I took a chance, and let my curiosity lead, which, (btw, is one of the coaching tips in is one of my secrets for connecting with people.

I said to him, “I wonder. The way you move so carefully. And you are a big man moving through the world. I don’t know, but it seems like you may be so careful because you know what it’s like to hurt someone and not mean to.”

You could almost hear a depth charge go off deep underwater.

There was silence as he look at me very intently, very still. And gently began to cry as he said simply “Yes.” To be seen like that and have one’s core experience named in such a way can be very moving.

He had learned, “If I am not careful, people will be hurt.” And that was the way he walked through the world. Wow. What would it be like to walk through the world with this hyper-vigilance of how you moved physically, all the time, because if you don’t – someone might get hurt? I could only imagine what it might feel like for such a person to be told “you can relax now” and it actually be true.

This was a powerful experience for all of us in the group.

This experience is a good example of what can happen when you are in the right state of mind (I would say these days, the right state of being). Mindfully observing someone do simple actions can reveal a great deal about them.

Rogers said,

“…because beyond the immediate message of the person, no matter what that might be, there is the universal.”

How to Change the World

When you are mindful and present with another person, you can hear and see the universal speaking and moving through them, and talking to the universal in you. When you are in touch with and respond from a place of being connected to such a unifying force – it changes you. It changes them. It changes everything.

In this way, the world can be changed. From such a simple act as just being present and really listening – while it may seem like something very passive – it is quite the opposite. Engage presence is extremely active and connecting. A unifying force in a divisive age. This is the very heart of compassionate, mindful communication. It will change you. It will change others. It will change the world. There is no other way home.

28 – The Difficult Monk –  Storyteller Sam Thiara

28 – The Difficult Monk – Storyteller Sam Thiara

“Everyone’s life is an autobiography…make yours worth reading”

Sam is not an actual monk, but his clients often treat him as a sage and in this interview, he relates a story about himself as a  “difficult Monk” since he doesn’t tell his clients the answers to life questions, but rather, helps them explore who they are.

In this conversation, you’ll hear how he has managed mindfully to transform himself from a person who is focused on achieving success to someone who inspires others through his storytelling, guidance, and insights into human nature. That transformation occurred, “the moment I stopped thinking about what I’m doing, and focused on who I am.” And that my friends, is the Langauge of Mindfulness.

Sam Thiara is a professional who has created a personal journey as a speaker, storyteller, writer, educator, mentor, coach, entrepreneur, problem solver, and community activator.

His goal is to engage individuals in their personal and professional development, work with teams and organizations on alignment and the 45+ non-profits that he has worked with over the years. Presently, he teaches at the Beedie School of business, at Simon Fraser University and is also the Founder and Chief Motivating Officer at Ignite the Dream Coaching and Consulting, a platform that engages his audience to define their path. A key element is transformational practices where he has become an expert in career coaching (15-40 year old’s) with over 5,000 conversations to date and supporting teams and organizations. He has authored two books, one on storytelling and the other a travel memoir about his journey to India to find his ancestral roots with a faded photograph. He has also spoken at two different TEDx conferences.

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Episode 25 – The Tyranny of Meaning

Episode 25 – The Tyranny of Meaning


This episode of the Language of Mindfulness podcast has so much! Some real gems in here including how to not be so beholden to the “tyranny of meaning”, how bank robbers get to “yes, I’m going to rob a bank today” and why it can be so hard to open to the goodness in life.

Check out this episode for real and let me know what you think!

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Episode 23 – Empathy, Boxing, and the Incredible Kristin Moody

Episode 23 – Empathy, Boxing, and the Incredible Kristin Moody


You’ll enjoy this conversation with the unique, articulate, powerful empathy scholar, coach, and boxer, Kristin Moody who uses the science of empathy to build authentic connections across diverse people. She is inspired by the biological instinct humans have to empathize with one another and the potential empathy has to address the most pressing threats to civilization. She first learned about the power of empathy as a high school teacher, where she saw the impact relationship-building made on student and teacher outcomes. Kristin went on to formally study empathy and integrate that understanding into support for individuals and organizations seeking improved culture, equity, and access to authenticity. She now teaches, researches, and explores empathy frameworks to help diverse people connect in ways that promote, celebrate, and leverage authentic diversity.

A proud graduate of Baltimore School for the Arts, Kristin is part of the founding board for Atlanta School for the Arts. She enjoys boxing, learning American Sign Language, and volunteering as a reader for the Georgia Radio Reading Service.

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